Question:
Is DSLR considered a DV or HDV?
Eve
2011-11-25 22:20:19 UTC
I shot a few video clips on a Canon 60D, and I don't know which to choose in the preferences of the editing software. Is it considered DV or HDV ?
Eight answers:
Mmm J
2011-11-25 23:02:14 UTC
Neither.



DV (standard definition Digital Video) and HDV (High Definition Video) are digital video formats that were originally recorded to digital tape.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dv

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HDV

They are low compression formats. There are a few high-end camcorders that can use an external recording device that can be flash memory or hard disc drive (see FireStore or Sony memory modules) for additional information.



More recently, there are high compression AVCHD systems using flash memory and hard disc drive to store captured digital video.



Many dSLRs - including the Canon 60D - capture high definition video in a 720p format, MOV file type. Without transcoding, the MOV file type is what your editor needs to deal with. With transcoding, you can pick the format/file type.
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2016-12-18 08:36:32 UTC
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I shot a few video clips on a Canon 60D, and I don't know which to choose in the preferences of the editing software. Is it considered DV or HDV ?
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Hi Alex: You asked a similar Question last week over in the "Cameras" Category, but since you are interested in shooting "video" and not still photos, I'd recommend you discard your thoughts of using a DSLR like the Canon 5D (or any of the other Rebel/EOS series). There's a current "craze" for using DSLRs to shoot video, sometimes motivated by budget & lensing options (it's hard to find a changeable-lens true camcorder for under-$3000 USD). But audio features on any DSLR take a backseat, and complaints about lousy audio capture, without spending a bundle on extra microphones & external mixers or digital recorders, are frequent with DSLR shooters & editors. And built-in limits on video-length and sensor overheating issues (after 30 minutes or so) also eliminate most DSLRs for serious video projects. And keep in mind that the Canon XH-A1 camcorder is a late-2006 model that's no longer made. Still shoots great HDV hi-def, and stores video in low-compression high-bitrate MiniDV cassettes. Pro-audio XLR connectors with real audio knobs & settings exceed anything a DSLR can provide. Plus, you get time-code support, which DSLRs lack. Other similar camcorders in the same price bracket are Sony's HVR-Z1 (the newer Z5 & Z7 might be out of your budget), and Panasonic's various AG-DVX or AG-HVX series (the DVX30P, the DVX100-DVX300, the HVX200, etc.). The DVX are standard def, but shoot good 16:9 widescreen if that's your big concern; otherwise, get an HVX hi-def model, new or used. Once you get in the $4000-$5000 price bracket for camcorders, you get changeable lens options (like the Sony HVR-Z7 & HVR-S270, and Panasonic's AG-AF100). If you choose a newer AVCHD-file format camera like the AG-AF100, just make sure your editing computer & software can handle that highly-compressed format. hope this helps, --Dennis C.  
lare
2011-11-26 07:36:33 UTC
Most inexpensive editing software uses low compression formats like DV (as in miniDV) or HDV (which is MPEG2). These are only available on cassette tape based camcorders, not an option on a canon 60d. If you are using FCP on mac, canon has a plug-in for working with the video files. Otherwise you will need to buy an editor that cost half again as much as your 60d.
2011-11-26 08:09:45 UTC
What editing software are you using? Different programs have different settings.



DV is a specific type of standard-definition compression format, usually recorded on MiniDV tape. DSLRs do NOT use DV.



HDV is a specific type of high-definition format, usually recorded on MiniDV tape. DSLRs do NOT use HDV.



DSLRs typically use a compression format called H.264 (AVCHD). It is a heavily-compressed format, usually used for high-definition video (this is NOT necessarily the same as the HDV format - I know, it's confusing). Different programs have different "best practices" for how to work with H.264, which chokes the processors of most computers if edited natively.



So, which program is it? Setting your project to HDV might work, but if there are even more options, one of the others might be even better. In Avid Media Composer, I'd probably work in something like a DNxHD 145 project. Final Cut Pro, I'd probably work in ProRes422. For other programs, there are other settings.



EDIT: So, let's see...you're cutting H.264 HD footage. Premiere Pro - what version? CS4? CS5? CS5.5? To be honest, I'm not very familiar with Premiere, I work mostly in Avid and some Final Cut Pro, but the concepts are similar, so I'll try to help.



Also, what other sequence presets are available? You might see "AVCHD" and "DVCProHD" as well. These might be better choices than HDV. Your source video is AVCHD. In a HDV sequence, your computer is not only trying to play back AVCHD, which is hard enough as it is, but also trying to convert it to HDV while it does so. This is an extreme strain on the processor, and choppy playback would be expected behavior.



Can you tell me some specs about your original footage? Is it 720p? 1080i? 1080p? And what about the frame rate - 24? 25? 29.97? This will help in selecting the proper sequence settings.



In any case, there are a few ways of attacking this:



1) Transcode your footage before editing, to a less compressed codec. One possibility is DVCProHD. It'll take a while to make the conversion, but should go much more smoothly during the editing process itself. You'd bring your files into Adobe Media Encoder, then encode everything to something like "P2 Movie." You'd then change the settings for the encode, depending on what your source video format is. You'd use the 60Hz settings for NTSC-format countries (video recorded at 24p, 30p, or 60i), and the 50Hz settings for PAL-format countries in which video is recorded at 25 fps. This is similar to what I sometimes do for Avid - I convert everything to DNxHD before I start (or ProRes for Final Cut Pro). From there, editing just flies! If you're still unsure of which video parameters to set, feel free to ask.



2) Edit your video natively. I THINK that if you choose one of the AVCHD sequence presets, your raw video will not need to render in order to play back. If you add effects, those effects will render to a less compressed codec for smooth playback. If your computer is up to the task, this might be worth a try. It will definitely be better than choosing HDV!



Overall, a good rule of thumb for video is to convert and compress as FEW times as possible. Whenever you can work with the original files smoothly, that's preferred. When that's not possible, convert to a good intermediate format. That's why Avid has DNxHD, and FCP has ProRes. They're intermediate formats with no visible quality loss, but much smoother editing performance.



Again, much of this depends on which version of Premiere Pro you have, as HD features have been added and tweaked rapidly in recent releases. Which version is it? I'm somewhat familiar with CS4 and CS5.
Iridflare
2011-11-26 01:39:52 UTC
As Mmm J said, it's neither. The specs I've seen say the 60D can record 1080p as well as 720p. In theory 1080p is higher quality but you might not be able to tell the difference. If you're recording lots of movement and / or lighting changes it might even be worse. Try you options and see what they do for you.





Sorry, I've just reread your question - go with HDV, but it's possible the software doesn't support video from your camera.


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